Tuesday, October 4, 2011

Edius tips and shortcuts

Default Key shortcut for adding audio crossfade (Edius 6)

In Edius 5.5 I used to add audio crossfade only by just pressing ALT+1 while having the audio in one of the A tracks (grouped with video). Now in Edius 6 this also adds the video transition, which I don't want. Is there a shortcut to add JUST the default audio crossfade?
(By the way, the "add default transition to crossfade" I have unchecked. )
Second thing I would like to ask - In Edius 6 I also miss the shortcut to change track focus. In Edius 5.5 it was the up / down arrow. Is this gone or am I just missing something?
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:12 AM
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I confirm your findings Johnny, and confirm crossfade behaviour has got worse with E6. I do not have a fix but to add more info:

Many years ago with E3, there was a KB shortcut that applied the default crossfade (without adding a transition if the settings were ticked accordingly)

This feature got broken with the release of E4.0 and has been missing ever since.

I reported this and demo'd to Jeremy (Aus) and Alex (Japan) at IBC about 4/5 years ago when E4 was released.

It appears that, not enough people notice this or request a fix so its never been addressed

The workaround i've been using with E4 & E5 is KB shortcut "Paste Transition (Out Point)"

The downside is, it is a longer process and relies on the clipboard not being over written by another copy event.

After booting edius, you have to drag a crossfade between 2 clips, then do ctrl+c with the crossfade still selected. Then every time you select the audio of a clip and press the KB shortcut defined for "Paste Transition (Out Point)", a crossfade is applied between the clip and the next (assuming sufficient header material). However, say you do another ctrl+c to copy a clip or filter etc, the crossfade gets lost from the clipboard and you have to repeat the procedure of dragging a new crossfade and copying or copying one already on the timeline. Major pain when you regularly want to copy color correction filters plus also want to apply crossfades.

As mentioned, this worked perfect with E3.

I've only been using E6 for a few days but notice the E4 & E5 workaround above doesnt work all the time. The behaviour is intermittent, working once or a few times then stops applying any more despite clipboard not being overwritten also plenty header material. I havent worked out yet why this is.

Doing a search in the custom keyboard shortcut settings for "crossfade", there is only one command i can find "Delete Clip Crossfade"

What we need is a "Apply Default Crossfade" command.

or

Better still so we can make use of Alt+1 etc for different duration crossfades, when selecting the audio part of a clip with associated video, the behaviour needs changing for KB shortcut "Set Default Transition" (and Alt+1 etc) This needs changing to take into account the settings tick box and prevent a transition being applied to the video.

Am I missing something? why are more people not reporting this? GV have not fixed in 4/5 years and its not going to get on a fix list if its only a problem for a handful of people...
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:31 AM
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Hi Mark

try this and see if it suits

1. select clip in front of cut point
2. Alt+click audio of following clip (middle third, if using VA track)
3. apply default transition with timeline toolbar icon or Ctrl+P or hit Alt+1 etc

the same works if you only want a video trans, you would alt+click the video (top third)
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:31 AM
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Hi Anton

Thanks as always for your speedy and helpful reply.

That works, but instead of "1. select clip in front of cut point", if i instead park the timeline playhead before the edit point, then Alt + click the following clip audio, i get a centred audio crossfade which is what i want - cool!

That's a workaround to keep me going for the time being.

I havent managed to discover a way of doing a KB equivalent of Alt + mouse click to select audio only.

A one click keyboard shortcut is still a great time saver, I will try and get this reported officially again.

I top & tail clips at speed without using the mouse. I move clip focus with alt+arrow keys. Trim in and outs with KB, scrub and playback with KB. I only use the mouse when I cant do something with the KB. I want to hit one key to apply a centred crossfade to the next edit point. As existed with E3.

BTW on a separate issue, you replied to a post of mine a while back re Edius locking up and white borders round windows when multitasking/switching away from edius to Win OS or another app. The previous problem was fixed by disabling/ uninstalling a virus checker I had forgotten was still running on my system after a troubleshooting spell. I've noticed since E6, the problem is back again and i've not installed any virus checker. I noticed in the icon task bar a "Microsoft security essentials" program running, perhaps was a recent Win 7 update. I disabled this along with exiting all running task icons to test. I dont think its as bad as it was when i had the virus checker running but now I get about a 5 to 6 second freeze, then white border for a couple of seconds, so about 7 or 8 secs delay. I get a similar delay the first time i click the "Export" icon below the preview monitor or the first time i select "tools" from the menu. Do you get this with E6 & Win 7? any thoughts?
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:38 AM
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no delay problems here at all with E6.03 and Win7/64

however, there is nothing of any kind running here, no MS security essentials, I would uninstall them, disabling may not be enough

and here is what I use to see what is running and lots more info and ways to prevent them from autostarting

http://www.aida64.com/online-store (Extreme Editions)
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:01 PM
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That's a workaround to keep me going for the time being.
It is not a workaround it is how EDIUS 6 works.
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Old 07-22-2011, 02:17 PM
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Alt + click is by design, agree. I've been using for split edits since day one although I hadn't thought to use for crossfades until Anton pointed out. However its still a missing or broken feature not having a direct one click keyboard shortcut for applying audio crossfades.

It is too common a practice, not to have a KB shortcut.

With E3 and earlier you used to be able to apply crossfades with one KB button press, with the clip selected normally, which you can do by KB. Mouse in combination with shortcuts requires extra steps and too slow if applying a few hundred crossfades a day and cutting hours of rushes.
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Old 07-23-2011, 05:56 AM
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I think most crossfades are done with multiple clips. In that case selecting those multiple clips and dragging and dropping to all at once is faster.
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:38 AM
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My workflow is usually one at a time, some need J or L adjustments, some need duration adjustments, most of time is necessary to preview and adjust individually.
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